Jul 26, 2011

BUMBLEFOOT causes & treatment. **WARNING: Graphic Photos**

Bumblefoot,  also known as “plantar pododermatitis,” is an infection that is found on the bottom of the feet and sometimes between the toes of chickens. Left untreated, serious cases can be fatal. This photo illustrates a slightly more advanced case of bumblefoot than the photo below it. Note the redness, swelling and tell-tale scabs.


This is Phoebe, she's my bantam, Cochin Frizzle. As if it weren't enough to suffer the indignity of this horrific molt last year, she had to endure bumblefoot surgery on top of it! All of the surgical photos below are of Phoebe's procedure.
We caught Phoebe's infection early. Note the swelling and redness in this first photo, but lack of a distinct, black scab in the photo below it:



Causes:
Bumblefoot can be caused by a cut, scrape or injury to the foot pad, commonly occurring from a splintered roost or repetitive, heavy landings from heights or poor litter management (dirty shavings). The compromised skin allows an entry point for bacteria (eg: staphylococcus), which can then lead to a pus-filled abscess.  A less common cause of bumblefoot is a vitamin A deficiency. Failure to treat bumblefoot timely can result in the spread of the infection to the bones and tendons and even death.
This is an advanced case of Bumblefoot, which was successfully treated by surgical removal at home.
Detection:
Regular foot inspections is recommended. The most common symptoms of bumblefoot include limping or lameness. Inspection of the foot pad may reveal redness, swelling and either a callous-looking lesion or a black scab.

Prevention:
Provide chickens with a good, balanced diet, (e.g.: layer pellets for egg-producing hens)  proper roosts that are splinter-free and less than 18” in height and properly maintained litter conditions.

Treatment:
The affected foot should be cleaned thoroughly with Vetericyn VF, a Betadine solution or soaked in water containing dissolved epsom salt. Mild cases can take a 'wait and see' approach but they tend to get worse. Some cases can be treated with the removal of the scab and the application of Vetericyn 2-3 times a day until healed.
More advanced cases may need to be surgically treated and some may require a course of antibiotics. Failure to treat this infection can be fatal. Ideally, a chicken with bumblefoot will be treated by an avian veterinarian. I do not have an avian vet and the following procedure is the one I use.

**The following is not professional, veterinary or medical advice. It is based on my experience as a backyard chicken-keeper and is shared for others whose pets may otherwise suffer or perish from inability to obtain professional veterinary care.**
 
This procedure is horribly graphic and time-consuming. It generally takes about an hour to complete the procedure and while it can be done by one person,  two makes it infinitely easier.  I find that performing this procedure is best done at the kitchen sink where adequate lighting, counter space and a water source are available. See my YouTube video of bumblefoot surgery from start to finish here.

I always keep a basic first-aid kit handy and I keep mine stocked it with: Vetericyn VF, Betadine, triple antibiotic ointment, vitamins & electrolytes, scalpels, non-stick gauze pads, Vetwrap, tweezers and gloves, Epsom salt, sterile scalpels, tweezers, scissors, Nutri-Drench and Duramycin. During an urgent, medical situation, acquiring supplies should not be the priority.
 
PREPARATION & EQUIPMENT:
These are some of the supplies that I use for performing bumblefoot surgery:
Betadine, 2 bath towels, gloves, Vetwrap, scalpel, paper towels, Vetericyn VF or antibiotic ointment & gauze (Epsom salt, optional).



Sanitize the sink with a bleach and water solution before and after the procedure.  Sanitize cutting instrument and tweezers thoroughly. Infection is the enemy.

Breathe.  Breathing is important. We take breathers in between steps and if  feeling lightheaded at all, take a break, sit down and regroup before returning to the job. We talk to the chicken while doing the procedure; I find that it helps everyone get through it.

Soak-Fill sink with enough warm water to cover the foot. Add Betadine to the water. Soak the foot to soften up the foot pad and clean it well externally. Drain the sink and re-fill with a water and Betadine mix or with Epsom salt in water. Repeat soaking procedure.
Preparing the patient- I wrap the chicken in a towel so that her head is covered and she can’t see but can breathe, then lay her on the counter, on her back with her foot facing up. It is helpful to have an assistant holding the chicken in place gently, but securely.  99% of the time the chicken  poops at some point or other, whether it's in the water or on the towel. She will wait until it is least convenient; I always consider it a sign of appreciation for my efforts and keep paper towels and a second bath towel handy. I next apply Vetericyn VF to the foot.
Wrap securely so they can't see as it calms them.
 
THE PROCEDURE OPTIONS: 
Remove scab only & apply Vetericyn or 
Remove scab and infection underneath it, then apply Vetericyn
I wear gloves- as it is messy work and staph infections can be contracted by humans.
Next, taking a scalpel, Exacto knife or some type of extremely sharp razor instrument, I cut into the pad of the foot all around the outside circumference of the scab, straight down into the foot. There is usually some blood, but not ghastly amounts. I dab with paper towels or gauze so I can see where I'm going. The scab  is then removed with as much underlying dead tissue as can be grasped. It helps to use a paper towel or tweezers.
 
 Removing the scab:
While cutting down, I'm looking for dead tissue and a “kernel” or “plug” that may be at the heart of the infection. It is often attached to the scab itself so I don't rush to remove the scab as it can help lift the infected tissue. The plug consists of dehydrated pus that has solidified. It actually looks like a waxy, dried kernel of corn. There is not always a kernel present but there will be stringy, slippery bits of thread-like, whitish/yellowish tissue.
At this point, I decide whether to continue trying to remove more of the infection or stopping, applying Vetericyn VF and bandaging the foot. It’s a judgment call every time based on severity of the infection, ease of access and whether the kernel is visible.
There's the kernel at the tip of the razor (we use only scalpels now as they come sterilized & are easier to control.)
 
Removal of most of the kernel with tweezers.
The kernel that was removed:

If I decide I’m going to continue with removal of the infection after the scab is removed, I re-soak the foot in clean Betadine water and gently squeeze and massage the foot pad from outside in, towards the wound to loosen up the gunk inside. The chicken is re-wrapped in the towel and the removal procedure continues.
It often takes quite a while of digging, squeezing and soaking, alternately, to get to the infection. Once the kernel is visualized, if there is one, I use sterilized tweezers or paper towel to hold onto it and cut around it, trying to pull it out in one piece if possible. The kernel is distinguishable from foot pad as it is hard, waxy, yellowish material versus foot pad that is soft, pliable and pink. (The following pictures are from a different hen's bumblefoot procedure.)








FINISHING UP & BANDAGING 

Once I'm fairly satisfied that I have gotten most of the gunk out, I prepare to wrap the foot. I used to apply triple antibiotic ointment (Neosporin) to the open wound at the end of the procedure I now exclusively apply Vetericyn VF to the wound. 
If using Neosporin, it is important that the ointment NOT contain a PAIN KILLER. Any ingredient ending in “caine” or “cane” (eg: benzocaine, lidocaine) can be toxic, if not fatal to chickens.  Apply a generous amount of antibiotic ointment to the area, then apply a 2" x 2" square of non-stick gauze over it.
Instead of Neosporin, I spray Vetericyn on the foot and allow it to soak in, untouched for 30 seconds, then apply a 2” x 2” square of non-stick gauze.
Once the gauze is in place, I fold each of the four corners in towards the center of the square, (creating a smaller square). This creates a little bit of pressure to the area to stem any residual bleeding and keeps the Vetericyn or antibiotic ointment in place. It is important not to pull the Vetwrap too tightly as it can cut off circulation to the foot.
I only use Vetwrap for bandaging after this procedure.I made a brief YouTube video to demonstrate the wrapping technique here.
Vetwrap is a stretchy bandage that is lightweight and needs no tape to stay secured. It is not sticky or gluey and it stays secure even while the chicken is going about its daily business of scratching and roosting. Vetwrap can be found at Tractor Supply Stores, feed stores and online. 
One, 5-6 inch strip of Vetwrap cut lengthwise into three or four smaller pieces is usually sufficient. With the first strip of Vetwrap: I hold it at the top of the foot and weave it under the foot, over the gauze, then around and between the toes, securely, but not too tightly. I repeat with the remaining two strips, ending with the wrap going up, above the foot an inch or so.
This is Oprah, on the right. She had double bumblefoot surgery as you can see from her bandaging. The bandages were removed after six days as she had healed beautifully by then.


OBSERVATION & FOLLOW-UP
The VetWrap remains on the foot until the next day when it is removed to assess the wound. If everything looks good, I re-apply Vetericyn (Neosporin is okay too) and the gauze with and secure with Vetwrap. At any sign of infection (redness, swelling, red streaks up the foot, foul smell) I call my vet for antibiotics. Over the counter antibiotics are not ordinarily sufficient to cure a spreading staph infection.

I keep the bandage on the foot for about a week, changing it approximately every 24-48 hours, reapplying Vetericyn each time. A new and improved scab will form and that’s a good thing. It will not be black with infection as the original scab was.  I have never found it necessary to administer antibiotics after bumblefoot surgery and each chicken has recovered beautifully. Some chickens may require antibiotics- a vet should be consulted for a prescription.

This is how Phoebe's foot looked five days after her surgery, which is just how it should appear.
My chicken tolerate this procedure well, the humans, less so. It is not complicated or technically challenging, but it is time consuming and yucky. I always remind myself that I’m doing the right thing for my chickens, which, if not treated, would remain in pain, get worse and possibly die from infection.

 This is Phoebe five weeks after her bumblefoot surgery, happily digging in the woods. Back to business as usual and molting hideously.
This is an update on the bumblefoot surgery we did on our Silver Spangled Hamburg who was featured in my YouTube video. These photos were taken three days after her surgery.
This is the bandage we put on her three days ago.
After the Vetwrap was removed, the gauze showed a little oozing, which is to be expected. The Vetwrap does a great job of keeping the area clean and dry. Stella has been in the coop with the rest of the flock since the surgery.
Since the gauze was a little stuck to the wound area, (we had run out of non-stick gauze. oops)  we soaked it in Epsom salt water before attempting to remove it.


  This is exactly how the wound should look three days after the procedure. A new, healthy scab is forming, some of which came off with the removal of the gauze, but it looks healthy. We re-bandaged as described above. 

Four days post-op and Stella is out-and-about with the rest of the flock, getting her scratch on!
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74 comments:

  1. great to know and keep for future need.. hope wont need it but now I know what it is and what to do about it.. thanks.

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  2. Thanks everyone, my pleasure. :)

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  3. I've worked for a vet for 30 years. I hate to say this but abscesses and warbles fascinate me. I check my chickens feet weekly. You did a great job :)

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  4. Great article, love the step by step photos. I'll file this away for future use. Thanks for taking the time to do this :)

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  5. Thanks Allison, my pleasure. I hope you never need it!

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  6. Thanks, I'm going to check my Ladies feet tomorrow!

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  7. Very Good Information... I am going to build me a coop and buy me some chickens in the spring... They will be free range :)

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  8. @LaFollette Organic Farms: Welcome to the club! It's such a rewarding endeavor. Enjoy!

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  9. Thank you so much for giving us this valuable information. I have found not many vets have medical knowledge for chickens and much of the information caring for my chickens has come from within the chicken community, priceless information! Thanks again!Anna Seigler

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    1. My pleasure, Anna. I had to do lots of digging and reading about bumblefoot when I found my first case of it in my hen and I can tell you that is not the time you want to have to do research to figure these things out. It was stressful and time-consuming. I thought it would be useful to others to put all the information I gathered along with my personal experience all in in one place so others don't have to scramble like I did.

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  10. Nice job! I did a bumblefoot surgery on Butter, my buff Chantecler hen. It took 3 tries to get out the core. It was up along side one of her toes though the infection site was in the sole of her foot.There was so much junk, I was amazed. I did keep it all clean during the procedure but when I was done, I squeezed the neosporin in to fill the crater that was left behind. I sprayed on Blukote, let it dry, and let her go. She was great.

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    1. Thanks Sara. The surgery doesn't ordinarily go as easily as this one did!

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    2. this sounds like my issue. I'm wondering, if the core (Im assuming the hard clump I'm feeling is called the core)isnt near the infection site, is it necessary to make a new incision? or try to draw it out of the original scab site?

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  11. Wow! I hope I never have to do this but your instructions are great!

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    1. Thanks very much. I hope you never need to use this information but you'll be prepared and know what to do now if you must. :)

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  12. Thank you. I performed my first bumblefoot surgery using your tutorial today and everything went just grand. :-)

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    1. Good for you, Angie!! I'm happy to hear it went well & glad to have helped. Keep me updated on her recovery!

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  13. Vert Stanley2/19/12, 9:02 PM

    Ouch! Bumblefoot surgery doesn't look fun. I hope I don't have to do it anytime soon!

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    1. It's no fun for the humans, Vert, and even less so for the poor chickens. Unfortunately, the alternatives are worse. :(

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  14. That is horrible! I couldn't possibly do that. Oh my gadz, I dont think I do this chicken thing, I may have to rethink this. Thank you for the lesson. I think I am gonna faint.

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    1. Breathe deeply, IBF. This is one of those lessons that you take, hoping never to have to need the information, but it's good to know just in case. Bumblefoot is not uncommon, however, not everyone is willing or able to treat it themselves. With any luck, you'll have an avian vet (or a willing non-avian vet) available to help if you ever need it.
      Most of us don't.

      I assure you that keeping-chickens has rewards so far beyond providing food that regardless of the potential difficulties for us, we gladly do whatever is required to help them when they are in pain or danger.

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  15. Have you evr used honey for wound healing? I do that with chickens injuries since I don't keep antibiotic cream around. This information is great! I need to take a look at one of my roosters who was limping but seems to have recovered. I think it was a joint issue, not foot, but I will check his feet now that I have this info.

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    1. Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful. It's a good idea to check all your chickens' feet regularly so that infections are discovered before they become painful.

      I have never used honey for wound healing but I know folks do. Please let me know how your rooster checks out!

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  16. Very good article! I read it hoping what it was what was ailing my hen,Trouble, but no such luck..I don't know why she is limping, I can't see anything wrong with her foot or leg, but she is limping and the other ladies are beginning to pick on her. Any suggestions?

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    1. Thanks Bernadette. It's possible that she injured her foot or leg. How long has she been limping? Is there any redness or swelling on the top or bottom of the foot?

      If the others are picking at her because she is injured, you need to remove her from the flock (or the offenders, if a manageable number) until she has healed. Picking can be caused by a number of factors though, so without ruling those out, it's hard to know why it's happening.

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  17. I did surgery on my hen yesterday. She tolerated it very well. I was able to excise the scab and some stringy tissue with it but there is still a hard lump off to the side between her toes. I tried to push it towards the hole but did not have any luck. I felt as though I would need to make another incision closer to the hard lump to get it out. Without knowing what to do, I cleaned the wound with betadine, applied ample antibiotic ointment, and dressed it. I changed her dressings again today. Not sure what I should do about the hard piece still in there. Any advice?

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    1. Hi Deborah. I have found that sometimes it is necessary to cut from the top of the foot down towards the kernel. It sounds like you got some of the cheesy, semi-liquified infection and while there is not always a hard core, the fact that you feel it in this instance is pretty good evidence that more advanced infection is probably present. I have had to go back in a second time only once.

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  18. Thanks for the advice. I did go ahead and make an incision on the top of her foot and removed the hard kernel that I could feel. It went fine. She seems to be acting perfectly normal. On the other hand, I have another hen (without a wound or bumblefoot) that is acting ill today. She has stayed in the coop all day, just laying around with her eyes closed. She was not even interested in her favorite snack (chips). I'm afraid that she might have gotten an infection from the hen with bumblefoot. I did see her pecking at her dressing once. Her stool looks runny and yellow. I suppose I should have separated them. Kind of regretting that now. I'm worried that they will all get sick now if I don't isolate her. Do you think I am jumping to conclusions here? I've never had a sick chicken so this is a little new to me. Thanks again for your response.

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    1. I'm glad to know you were able to remove the infection. I don't think the behavior or symptoms of the other hen are related in any way to the bumblefoot issue though.

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  19. I don't have chickens and found this fascinating. If I did have them I'm positive I could take care of this just so they wouldn't be in pain. Great job on the tutorial. Makes me want chickens now. My friends son has a rooster, my daughter was babysitting, child brought his roster friend in the house. Totally normal for him to do. My daughter called in a panic, proclaimed "I'm not getting paid enough to clean up chicken poop!" I told her no worries have child clean up messes, make him keep his pet in kitchen if it freaks you out. Needless to say I don't think she ever volunteered to babysit again

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  20. I loved your article and youtube video.However, I am feeling really bad right now! I noticed recently that one of the chickens had a swollen toe and after researching realised it was bumblefoot, I proceeded to de-scab and get the pus out, wrap the foot etc. didnt have a problem with this as I've grown up with animals and often had to deal with cuts and bruises. The swelling wasnt going down, so in the end I took the plung, sliced off the swelling on the side of her toe, found the cheese like lump and everything is well. But then I had to perform surgery on the foot of one of the other girls, typical bumblefoot symptoms, but her foot bled and bled and bled, it was literally a river of blood! I felt like a butcher. Couldnt find anything inside..still bleeding...wouldnt stop, so I put some antibiotic cream on and wrapped her foot, this morning she is limping heavily, blood on the perch. I took the wrapping off, washed her foot in antiseptic solution and re wrapped, started bleeding again, not as bad and I am sure it will heal but I feel like this shouldnt have happened, maybe her foot was okay in the first place. Have you ever had a chickens whos foot bled this much? Regards Ellen

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  21. I have had chickens who bled more than expected or more than is usual. I always keep them inside in a crate for a few days until they get a chance to begin healing and to limit their scratching/roosting with the injured foot.
    If you don't have any Vetericyn, now is a good time to pick some up. Your local vet may carry it but if not, it is sold on Amazon, for instance.

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  22. Thanks Kathy

    Thats what I'm doing and will pick up some Vetericyn!

    Regards

    Ellen

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  23. I learned a lot, not just about the surgery, but also some prevention...Also, I need to get Epsom salts since it seems to come up a lot.

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  24. The procedure was interesting, but I also learned some good stuff on prevention. Noticed that epsom salts are needed in a lot of circumstances. Thanks

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  25. Thanks for the info. Hope to be a Chiken Mama soon!

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    1. My pleasure. Good for you! Let us know when they arrive!

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  26. oh my ive never heard of that till i red this blog so glad you take the time to share such great info! thanks bobby sue jabat Kbjabat@att.net

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  27. Thanks for your informative step by step procedures. I have performed very similar treatment to my
    old 10 year old hen "Miss VIcky", what a process it was. In the end she healed nicely. It's been 8 months and she is
    limping again and has swelling at her ankle. No scab like what her foot looked like.
    Can you give hens anti-inflamatory meds to help with the swelling. She is eating and walking and seems fine, but a sore painful limp. Thanks.

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  28. I am so glad that we have never had a case of bumblefoot, but grateful to have this reference as well as your video. Thank you for taking the time to present this so completely.
    Oh, and I love your wall paper!

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  29. I so hope I never have a chicken that has bumblefoot because I can't even get a splinter out of somebody's finger. It makes me sick to my stomach.

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    1. I hear ya. This is much less tolerable than a splinter. :/

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  30. Just two days ago i noticed a chicken with bubbly looking lumps between her toes. I suspected bumblefoot right away. Today I believe all but 2 which are separate (Mom and baby) of our 24 girls have it now with a scab on the bottom of the foot. We cleaned chicken feet today in epsom salt and applied antibiotic ointment and wrapped their feet. I'm afraid we may have to do surgery and I think I might puke. I am not a medical kind of person. Do you always have to do surgery? Can the plug come out on it's own? Thanks for all the info... I'm gonna go take some deep breaths now...

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    1. Wrapping their feet after their pedicures isn't going to clear up the infection, unfortunately. The chicken with the lumps you can see from the top of the foot between the toes has an advanced case that needs to be addressed. If there is not a vet in your area who will take care of it for you, maybe you can enlist the help of a friend or relative (someone in the medical field who might not be as sensitive to the graphic nature of this procedure). You can try the modified approach with just removing the scab with a scalpel and spraying it 2-3 times per day with Vetericyn VF. It's very time-consuming but I've done it and it worked after several weeks.
      Best of luck to you Dana, please let me know if you have any other questions at all. Kathy@The-Chicken-Chick.com

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  31. I just watched the bumblefoot surgery on Stella and when I saw someone cutting the bottom of the chickens foot and trying to pull away a round part of skin I was a bit skeptical about the proceedure but then after it was removed all it took was some well placed pressure on the foot and the rest just popped right out and Stellas foot returned to normal size. You guys do great work and I admire how gentle you were with Stella.

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  32. Robin Spencer8/2/12, 9:57 PM

    I have a rooster who had this. His name is now Mr. Bumblefoot!!

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  33. Found your video! My family and I are former city kids, now living on a farm with 40 chickens. Finding a chicken vet is a bit of an issue here, and not cost effective. So, we are learning. Without your video, I'm not sure it would have gone as well as it did. Our chicken is resting in a box on the back porch for a few days. Looks good today! Thank you again.

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  34. There is another condition that birds can get and it is called constricted toe syndrome. The toes become swollen and look like a hair or fine wire is wrapped around the joints of the toe. But when examined nothing can be found. My vet cut the toe off...not much else that can be done. The bird didnt miss the toe and actually seemed happier without it. No more pain or numb feeling.

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  35. I just love your site! I bought my nephews and nieces some chicks this spring and we've all been learning. They should begin laying soon. We've just put their nesting boxes in and have laid out some fake eggs to help them understand what to do in them. Our first pen was just for chicks and will now become the baby chick pen. We built a nice little coop for them to transfer to, letting them out most of the day and returning in the evening. The kids can't wait for them to start laying! I hope they don't ever need this type of surgery or treatment because I'm 2 hrs away from them!

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  36. Great information and video!

    I'm just starting my 2nd year with chickens and suspect one of my Austrolorps may have bumblefoot. I don't see any swelling but the black scab is there and she walks as little as possible (she is otherwise perky and eating fine). I'm going to try the non-surgical procedure first (soaking & scab removal) and will move on to the knife if necessary.

    One question - once you bandage the foot, do you isolate the chicken for a few days or place her back with the flock? I would certainly isolate her if I saw that she was being picked on, but otherwise do you keep the patient in the coop (while still checking and changing the dressing)? It seems that would be the least stressful for her. Thank you!

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  37. Great job in explaining how to do this!!! The first time is always the worst and seems to take the longest!! Keep in mind it can be pretty gross and some chickens bleed ALOT more than others!!! Remember its for the best!!!!

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  38. I seriously can't thank you enough for posting this.
    I accidentally stepped on the toe of one of my chickens about 6 weeks ago or even longer, and my family's reaction when she started to go downhill was to "get rid of her".
    We first thought it was a soft tissue injury, but to cut a long story short - it's infected.
    I started searching the net but didn't think to check youtube until yesterday when i came across your post and one other. Late yesterday I took to a lump that recently developed above her ankle (which did form a scab) and cleaned that out. Today I soaked her foot again, cleaned it up, and then lanced her middle toe, which has had swelling from the word go, and I took out an amazing amount of pus and i think 2 fragments of bone. So at this stage it seems like i accidently broke her toe and it got an infection from the scale that came out when I trod on her.
    She’s done so well to get this far and your video and website has helped me to better help her. Thanks again :)
    Cassandra
    PS thanks for the names of the drugs you use, cause in Australia, betadine is as good as it gets for over the counter! Thank goodness for internet shopping!

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  39. Kristin Brown1/6/13, 4:44 AM

    Best video on the web of bumblefoot removal and treatment. Thank you for sharing the details! I haven't seen this in my flock before, however am eager to do a foot check tomorrow when I get a chance.

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  40. TheChickenChick1/8/13, 11:47 PM

    Thanks so much Kristin. I hope you don't need the information, but feel good about knowing where to access it if you do.

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  41. Anne Tellefsen1/9/13, 11:34 PM

    Kathy you refer to both between Vetericyn and Vetericyn VF. Is there a difference or, are they interchangeable?   Hillary, one of my blue splash marans, developed bumblefoot on one of her feet. But thanks to you, your blog, your video, and a bit of minor surgery with Vetericyn, she has recovered wonderfully. Also, thanks to the information you've passed along, I've made modifications to the coop and run in the hopes of alleviating future infections. Lastly, proactive foot inspections have become a regular occurrence with my not so little fuzzy bottoms.
    Thank you Kathy for *ALL* that you do for all of the chicken addicts out here and all of their beloved fuzzy butts.

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  42. TheChickenChick1/10/13, 9:49 PM

    Hi Anne. Vetericyn VF is "veterinary formula," which is stronger than Vetericyn. I use the VF, more bang for the buck. :)

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  43. Anne Tellefsen1/11/13, 12:51 AM

    Many thanks for the clarification!!

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  44. is it not painful ,is the chicken in any pain as you are digging in to her flesh.

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  45. I think that my plymouth rock hen may have this. She's got one biggish one and a smaller one. The foot with the bigger one is also swollen and red :(
    Is this apart of bumble foot ?

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  46. Velma Brown1/23/13, 7:09 PM

    Another symptom for my hens has been a very hot foot due to the infection - we noticed our hen limping and when we picked her up and put our hand around her foot, it was quite hot to the touch. Then when we looked at the bottom of her foot, it was clearly Bumblefoot. :-(

    We took her to the vet who recommended soaking in epsom salts and getting that plug out. We soaked her feet every night for a week, plucked away at it with tweezers, and then slathered antibiotic ointment on it. After about a week it was on the mend. Thankfully we've not had to do the 'surgery' as I'm not sure I could do that.
    We have successfully cleared up three feet by doing this. Although, it does require follow up to make sure nothing it doesn't recur. Their little feet have nothing but pink skin and a very faint round scar on the skin where the scab used to be.

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  47. I have one adopted older hen who repeatedly gets something like bumblefoot - but interestingly, the hard kernel forms in a "hole" in her foot which has been healed - possibly from a bumblefoot surgery before I got her?  It seems that dirt and such pack into the opening over time when she's out foraging.  I can pick her up and flex that area at the base of her toes and simply pull the plug out.   Although it seems to go quite deep, there's no bleeding, no raw flesh. It only takes a moment to pop out the plug.  I had not wrapped the foot in the past because it didn't quite seem like an open sore or injury, if you can picture it.  Have you heard of anything like this?  She's quite happy and mobile, but I'm always concerned about it because I think it may be painful when she's roosting with her weight on those feet.

    We now have a TSC (!) so I think I'll try the Vetericyn and some wrap to see if I can get the "hole" to close more.  It's been getting smaller as I continue to keep it cleaned out.

    And, yep, it's gross.  On the other hand, if you've ever confronted packed anal glands on a poodle, this is a piece of cake..... LOL

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  48. TheChickenChick2/19/13, 10:07 PM

    I suspect the area you are describing is a natural fold/pocket in the foot. One of my hens with crooked toes has a pronounced pocket, similar to what you are describing and dirt, etc gets packed into it, but is easily popped out by inverting the skin from the top of the foot.

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  49. I think you have a PhD in chickendry (if that is even a word). I learn so much from you

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  50. Thank the Gods for your info. Pre-emptive phase here with the epsom soak and vetricyn. She is wrapped. I am ready for phase 2 now.

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  51. Thank you so much for posting this! I never knew how many things could go wrong with my chickens. I'm going to check their feet tomorrow and make sure they're all okay. I'm so glad you have this detailed information out there just in case I need it some day!

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  52. Julie Moore4/11/13, 4:13 AM

    Kathy, please can you answer one question. I performed the op on my precious rooster (thanks for the great video) who's had bumblefoot for about a year. I did not know what the 1cm black scab was and it never bothered him until last week when the foot swelled to twice its size. The op went well, lots of solid 'cheese' and stringy bits removed, cleaned with Betadine and he's rested on a towel in our kitchen since. Posture has improved, healthy appetite but it's day 2, second change of dressing and yellow bits are forming on surface. I have some sharp closeup photo's here:

    www.velopyrenees.com/images/tigers-foot-sharp-closeup.jpg
    www.velopyrenees.com/images/tigers-side-view-foot.jpg
    www.velopyrenees.com/images/tigers-whole-foot.jpg

    Please can you or anyone tell me if this is ok? just clean it with Betadine or should I quickly get antibiotics. I live in France so not sure how easy this will prove. Thank you all for your time and for a brilliant blog.

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  53. TheChickenChick4/11/13, 10:18 PM

    If he has had bumblefoot for a year, I would definitely ask a vet for some antibiotics. I don't know whether that yellow is cause for concern yet. If you are able to get some Vetericyn VF hydrogel, that's your best bet. They sell it on Amazon, can you buy products on Amazon.com?

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  54. Julie Moore4/12/13, 3:44 PM

    Hi Kathy Thank you very much for your advice. I visited a vet today who said that the yellow was cause for concern and it should be scraped away each day. She has given me Dermaflon cream and anitbiotics (Baytril) to be administered once a day. She put about 30 gauze pads on each foot and heavily bandaged it all in place - she said it was a mechanical problem and that I needed to alleviate pressure from his weight on his feet (if the 2nd foot wasn't bandaged, he'd favour his 'good' leg and cause more problems). She thinks that it will take a while for it to heal.

    I wanted to say thank you for your informative post, but more importantly for taking the time to help me with your quick response and advice.

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  55. I did this with my rooster George it was easy and he healed very well! He even fell asleep while I held him upside down during:)

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  56. Hi we followed this today as our chicken was limping and had the swollen pad with scab, husband cut round it but has bleed a lot and we where unable to carry on and look for pus didn't see any when scab was removed have put septic powder and bandaged well but im concered how much chickens can bleed.

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  57. So, after checking over me girls today I noticed by buff brahma has double bumblefoot. There was a little swelling, no redness but scabs on each pad. I soaked her feet twice in a warm Epsom salt solution. Rubbed the area down with povidine. The scabs came off easily but there were no kernels or solidified pus after squeezing and digging around. The tissue was fairly soft under the scabs. I applied triple antibiotic ointment and wrapped. Should there have been a kernel? Should I have dug around more?

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